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Which pedals do I need to get started playing in worship band? Part Deux

By Andy | May 21, 2009

Last time we looked at Tubescreamer overdrive pedals as part of a very basic set up to get you going in a modern worship band setting.

Now let’s look at the delay side of things. A good delay pedal is the real secret to playing in many modern worship song styles. Delays can do so many jobs, they can add jangle to chords, thicken lead sounds, add short reverb type sounds, provide huge sound scapes a bit like a keyboard pad sound and of massive rhythmic textures like the classic U2 sound. So learning to get the most out of your delay takes time and you could almost view it as an instrument in itself as it radically advances what you can do with an electric guitar. Before we get into the pedals themselves there is one golden rule, so repeat after me (no pun intended) I MUST SET THE DELAY SPEED TO BE IN TIME WITH THE MUSIC!!

Basically whatever the speed is determines whether the repeats are going to layer on top of what you played or just come back at you out of time. Too slow and it can just sound like a wall of sound and too fast feels like the repeats are running away from you.

Now not all delay pedals are the same so it’s worth investing in a good one to start with. If you’re not familiar with the different options available in many modern pedals then here is an overview. First there are three flavours of delay.
• Digital, which sounds pristine and gives you the most repeats
• Analogue, which is more lo-fi and sounds sound degrades nicely with each repeat
• Tape, which is taken from the old tape machine delays. When those machines started to play up the repeated sound would warble and flutter which sounded pretty good so many of the modern pedals try to replicate this, with differing degrees of authenticity.

As a general rule, cheaper pedals tend to be digital, which isn’t necessarily bad, older pedals can be analogue but often a, cost a fortune as they are now ‘vintage’, b, sometimes have weird power supply needs and c, although sound great don’t give you the multiple longer repeats that modern digital units can. Tape delays generally aren’t pedals but big boxes with proper tape reels inside them. They sound incredible but practically are for studio use only.

Some modern delays like the Line 6 DL4 (big green pedal that you’ve probably seen) are actually digital units but have modelling software that allows to emulate analogue and tape sounds. Some work better than others so it’s well worth listening to a few demos on YouTube before you buy.

Finally the last option worth talking about is tap tempo where you can literally tap in the beats to keep in time with your out of time drummer. But as we know that never happens in church so that option is probably useless to most of you…

Try to find pedals that use a standard negative tip 9v DC power supply like on the Boss pedals. There are a number of units that use 12 or 15 volt or even AC power supplies out there. Some of these differences are for very good reasons (e.g they just need more juice to sound better.) But, carrying lots of different power supplies is heavy, cumbersome and a pain to find extra power sockets for and plug and unplug etc. So here is a list of delay units, again from cheap to expensive. There are loads more I’ve not thought of too so if you have any others, please comment.

Boss DD3 – good quality basic digital delay in indestructible small pedal format – mainstay of pro players for years before the DL4 come along!delay
Boss DD5 – an updated version of the DD3 with tap tempo
Boss DD6 – DD5 + modulator (chorus) effect
Boss DD7 – new model, DD6 + analogue simulation + looper
Boss DD20 – double sized pedal with all of DD7 + presets and more
Behringer DD600 – inexpensive boss copy digital delay
Boss DM2 - classic analogue delay – if you can find one!
MXR carbon copy – new analogue delay
Maxon AD9 analogue delay – another DM2 type new alternative
Electro harmonix memory man – classic analogue pedal still in production. warm sounds but large footprint
Line 6 DL4 – big green pedal that almost every pro guitarists has used at one point. It models of classic delay uni ts and has loads of features including digital tape and analogue simulations, tap tempo and a loop function. Only problem is its quite big!
Line 6 Echo Park - takes the main functions of the DL4 and puts it into a small Boss sized enclosure. Great sounds but the tap function is delicate and you need a separate power supply (or a Gigrig Virtual battery) to stop it humming if used with other pedals.
Digitech X Series Digidelay – cheaper alternative to the DD7 and echo park. got to hold the single pedal switch to access tap function though.
Digitech Hardwire DL8 – high quality boss sized pedal with digital, analog, tape, modulated, lo-fi, reverse, and loop functions – no tap tempo though!
Vox Time Machine – this is brand new and worth checking out I think, tap tempo, vintage and modern switches, standard 9v power, self oscillation plus more in a simple package.
TC Nova Delay – digital pedal with presets and analogue simulation. Brillant audio tap facility that you can set just by striking the guitar strings! needs its own proprietary power supply though
T Rex Replica Delay – great quality analogue sounding digital delay with tap tempo
Carl Martin –  whole range of interesting delay pedals, many have 240 power and plug built in which may be cumbersome but all worth checking out
Diamond Memory Lane – great sounding analogue delay with modulation and tap tempo. Not cheap and needs 15v power but you get what you pay for.
Empress Super Delay – king of delays with loads of usable features. v expensive!
Pigtronix Echolution – this pedal is crazy, features multiple switchable time ratios, analogue, tap + chorus and tremolo too! 15v power and similar price to the Empress
Roland Space Echo Tape Delay – if you’ve ever played a real one of these then you know what all the fuss is about – sounds SO three dimensional but BIG, heavy and vintage pricing. 
Fulltone Tube Tape Echo– new proper genuine tape delay in a box and powered by real valves. Sounds amazing but not compact or cheap at all!

Plus many, many more but in truth I could be up all night listing them and I need sleep! So if you have others to add please do comment. Thanks.

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9 Comments

  1. Tim
    Posted May 21, 2009 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    Hey guys…

    With respect to the Boss DD Digital Delay Pedals, there are some important differences. If I’m wrong, someone please correct me…

    The DD-5 has tap tempo, but I think you have to buy an extra footswitch to do this with (Boss sell the “unlatch” version, which plugs into the side of the DD-5).

    The DD-6 has built in tap tempo, but you can’t use an external “unlatch” switch – it’s not great as you have to hold down the pedal for two seconds to engage the tap mode, then tap and supposedly hold it down again – too much hassle for me, and I’ve got one. The DD-6 DOESN’T have modulated delay, that’s on the DD-7.

    The DD-7 brings back the jack to have the unlatch pedal, and I think that’s why they replaced the DD-6 so quickly. Basically you have the choice of in-built or external tempo pedal – the best of both worlds.

    So my advice would be to get the DD-5 or DD-7 if you want to go on the Boss route – don’t get the DD-6. (On the other hand I think the price of second hand DD-6s will drop because of this, but is it worth it???).

    Also, the newer the model, the longer the maximum delay gets…

    I’m currently eyeing up the TC Electronic Nova Delay – looks like the bomb!

    Please set me straight if I have any of this wrong.

    Hope it’s helpful…

  2. Brian
    Posted May 21, 2009 at 11:13 pm | Permalink

    NovaDelay is amazing but can have trouble locking in at the right tempo for dotted 8th note repeats. This occurs because the pedal is based on MS divisions. If you play with a band live the tempo might not exactly match the MS values perfectly and the dotted 8th repeats sound sloppy. YMMV.

  3. Nick
    Posted May 27, 2009 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    There are so many delays it’s crazy.
    If you want to set the time to songs, you’re going to need pre-sets, which rules out most pedals.
    Also, unless you have a click at church, you will NEVER be in time with the drummer.

    Which brings in the tap tempo, which I use quite a bit – although mainly for lead.

    I tend to use the delay as an alternative to reverb, so somewhere between 250-350 ms, 2 or 3 repeats only, and quiet.

    But for lead, louder, and in time.

    I use a DLS EchoTap, which has a tap, separate effect levels for the pre-set and the tap, and a pretty good tone control.

    The Nova Delay is pretty good too, and I nearly jumped that way. Boss DD20 is pretty good as well.
    They ultimate floor delay is probably the Eventide Timefactor (rack quality in a stomp box), but seriously pricey.

  4. David Hall
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:26 am | Permalink

    My first delay ( which i still have and enjoy )was the Boss DD3 – it blew me away for its sound quality and reliability.

    I bought an old Roland RE201 Space Echo and enjoyed the old analog sounds ,but we didn’t get along too well as the tape came off regularly and we parted company.

    Boss introduced an RE20 Space Echo and i raced out to acquire one ,and was pleased to have the same great sound of the Roland RE201 with greater reliability ,and much more compact.
    If you want a fun spacy delay i highly recommend you check out online reviews.

  5. Mitzi Barker
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

    I’d like to hear some ideas about pedals for use with acoustic guitar.

  6. Tim
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    Anyone got any more tips for how they use delay with playing techniques / timings? I guess I mainly used the general “U2 sound” with dotted eights (?) – get strong repeats in between notes played, which is great.

    DOn’t use it for much else but I’d like to know what people do for atmospheric solos or thickening riffs / lead.

    Any suggestions?

    I think the violining with volume swells a la Eddie Van Halen may be o.t.t… (can’t nail them anyway)

  7. Marie Page
    Posted May 29, 2009 at 6:24 am | Permalink

    We did a couple of posts a while back on different playing styles. Here is the U2 one
    http://www.musicademy.com/2008/10/02/electric-guitar-styles-the-u2-sound/
    Here is Coldplay
    http://www.musicademy.com/2008/10/02/electric-guitar-styles-the-coldplay-sound/
    And here is Hendrix
    http://www.musicademy.com/2008/10/02/hendrix-style-double-stops/

    And Andy certainly covers using pedals on the Intermediate Worship Guitar DVDs
    http://www.musicademy.com/store/intermediate-worship-guitar-box-set-vol-13-p-5.html

  8. Dave Greenwood
    Posted June 1, 2009 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    How about something on pedals for bass guitar? preferably budget end (I’ve got by for years without any!).

  9. Andy Chamberlain
    Posted June 4, 2009 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    i hear ya both on pedals for acoustic and bass guitars. i’ll put something together and post it in the next week or so. Thanks Andy

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