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Newsletter – 23 June 2009 »

Pedals for Acoustic Guitars

By Andy@Musicademy | June 22, 2009

guitar-pedals

I’ve done a few articles about recommended pedals to get started with on electric guitar in a contemporary worship band setting and in response a number of people have asked for something similar for acoustic guitar and bass, so here are some thoughts. Similar principles apply to both instruments so I’ll list the acoustic pedal ideas in this post and the bass ones in the next.

When you get this kind of “what pedals for acoustic or bass” question the immediate response from many pro musicians is – don’t! Both these instruments are designed to be used with a natural tone and a lot of the time putting an electric guitar pedal though them is somewhat akin to too much icing on a cake. I don’t know if you’ve ever been to a worship service where the acoustic guitarist has used their favourite digital chorus pedal for the whole set, but it just gets fatiguing on the ears after a very short time! So in short everything that changes your natural tone needs to be used in short bursts at choice moments.

So if you want start with a couple of boxes it’s probably worth considering some pedals that enhance your natural tone rather than trying to change it. Firstly buy a great tuner, it’ll be the pedal you use the most and there’s nothing worse than a slightly out of tune guitar. Try getting one that mutes the output when you step on it. Also don’t be tempted to go for a cheapie. I’ve tried loads of cheap tuners over the years and the frustration that comes with it not be able to clearly pick up the right string sound is simply not worth the few quid you save on purchase price. There are loads available so do some research but here are some choices to get you going.

• Boss TU2 – undisputed champion for years but now there are some good alternatives

• Planet waves chromatic tuner – as above but with true bypass

• Peterson Strobostomp – A very accurate strobe based tuner. More expensive but excellent and includes a DI too

• Boss TU20 – an excellent hand held alternative to the TU2

• Korg Pitchblack – These are new and I have tried one but they look good value, easy to read and very heavy duty.

Once you got a tuner I’d invest in a decent preamp/DI if you’re guitar doesn’t already contain one. A good preamp will make the very best of your natural tone in an amplified situation. Some of these can be mounted inside the instrument others on the floor.

• Lr Baggs Para DI. – Lots of pro musicians use and recommend this unit

• Sansamp Para Driver DI – Very useful preamp for all sorts of acustic instruments.

• Fishman Aura acoustic imaging blender. Designed to be used to give a great recording tone as well as for live usage.

• Morgan Hill Natural 1 – This is a really intelligent combination of Preamp, DI and Volume pedal
 

None of these units are particularly cheap but the moral here is if you are going to invest in a unit don’t buy a cheap pedal just for the sake of it. Chances are it’ll wreck your tone. Spend good money on one or two great items that will last a long time and improve your tone.

If you do want to try some effects on acoustic there are a few pedals that are specifically designed for the job. Again always come back to taste so use in moderation.

• Fishman acoustic aura effects pedals. These come in chorus, delay and reverb and are high quality enough that they won’t wreck the nuances of the acoustic tone of your instrument.

• Yamaha acoustic magicstomp – a couple of years back Yamaha made this pedal with a number of good quality subtle acoustic based effects that included chorus compression and even microphone modelling. It didn’t really take off but if you can find one they make a good ebay bargain

• Volume  Pedal – Very useful! try Morley, Boss, Visualsound or Ernie Ball

• Aphex Acoustic Exciter – not strictly an effects pedal or preamp, more of a sonic maximiser that is a bit like a ‘loudness’ button on an old Dolby equipped stereo system. so it gives the top end a bit more zing, tightens the bass, adds a little more punch etc.

So here are a few acoustic effects to get you started. I’ve not covered all the bases by any means so do add your thoughts and ideas. Obviously I’ve veered towards the subtle side of effects and I’m in no way against experimentation – technically you can put almost any effect through an acoustic guitar (I’ve even seen fuzz used effectively) but before going wild with new sounds we should probably ask ourselves the questions. Will it fit with the style of music, will it ‘over flavour’ the instruments natural tone and can you use it with taste and restraint?

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  • Mark Tenney

    I think the best pedal for acoustic guitar is a good reverb pedal. Another good DI is the BBE Acoustimax. Also, don’t forget the Sonic Research ST-200 Tuner–it’s going to totally take over the stomp tuner market.

  • Alun McCarthy

    I’ve got a Zoom A2.1u which I’ve found is superb for my acoustic, which is a big old Epiphone FT-165 12 string. The pedal’s excellent for leading in our church which, like most others, has well-rounded acoustics which weren’t designed with guitars which love to feed-back at the drop of a hat!! I also use the pedal when we hold servics on the green outside the church, and for home recording. Without banging on about it too much, it really is the business for my needs.

  • Tof Lee

    Just to add to the list of good preamps, I’d highly recommend the Avalon U5. It’s used by artists like Chris Tomlin and Shane & Shane. Great for bass or acoustic guitar. It really beefs up an already clean, balanced tone.

  • Jay

    I run my Seagull acoustic through a boss tu-2 and then into a Fishman Aura Acoustic Imaging Pedal (Dreadnought) and I must say that the Aura helps enhance your natural tone. It definitely takes some playing around with for you to find your settings, but once dialed in, it is amazing. It takes away that nasty pingy sound you can get when plugged into a pa. Expensive for the subtleness, but it does make a difference.

    http://www.fishman.com/products/details.asp?id=92

  • Arthur

    I highly recommend the following acoustic preamp: the Award-Session AP-10. It’s British made! I have used one for a number of years with a Yamaha FG512 12-string dreadnought and latterly with a Godin A12.

    http://www.award-session.com/ap10.html

  • Rob

    I will give a BIG thumbs up for the BBE Acoustimax DI/Pre amp. Have been using one for the past year after using a Sans Amp Acoustic DI.
    Very clean sound, powerful EQ and a built in sonic maximizer and mute foot switch.
    Makes my Lowden sound huge!!

  • Toni

    I have an Echo Park Line 6 pedal for my Korg synth. I’m still figuring out how to use it with my keyboards and would love some feedback or an article on how to do that. Thanks!

  • Ruan

    I also use the BBE Acoustimax. It has a very solid construction and gives a great range of sounds. The sonic maximizer that comes with it can also enrich your sound if that’s what your looking for. My acoustic sound is rather thin, but the acoustimax fattens it up quite nicely.

  • Mitzi Barker

    I am confused about preamps. I have a Takamine supernaturals series with the CTP-1 Cool Tube preamp built in. Seems to work OK on our main worship platform run through a DI box, but when I try to put my Boss Acoustic Instrument Processor in line (with or without the DI), there is a dramatic stepdown in volume when I engage the effects. Is there some kind of conflict with the on-board preamp and the effects? I have the Fishman Aura Dreadnought imaging blender, but our sound guys seem to have a problem with it. In short – stuff sounds great when I play it through an amp at home, but on the platform I’m having trouble….about the only thing I’ve been able to make work is a Holy Grail reverb.

  • Mark Tenney

    @Mitzi Barker: I checked out the cool tube preamp and there is an internal switch on it that looks like it changes the impedance of the preamp mic. Try switching that once to see if it makes a difference. Also your Boss AD-5 looks like it has a few input impedance options you can try.

  • Mitzi

    Mark – thanks for going to that trouble – I’ll definitely check that out with our sound guys.

  • Greg Marsee

    I agree with Andy on the Yamaha Acousic Magicstomp. Has a lot of great qualities. If you get one from Ebay, Make sure you get the CD that comes with it. I purchased mine from there and it became a bit of a hassel to order the cd from Yamaha. The CD helps you line up the effects in the numeric order you want them to appear in the pedal, for example if you like the Hawian guitar effect, but need to use the parlor guitar effect in the same song, you don’t want to have to scroll from number 56 to number 97 in the middle of a song. It gives you the ability to put them next to each other.

  • Stolebro

    I’ve always seen the Aphex Acoustic Exciter pedels in the stores but didn’t know what they did. Sounds like I need one! Thanks!

  • LeMmon

    I have the BBE Acoustimax on my acoustic board and I love it!!!
    Also you gotta try the ModTone Clean Boost ….it gives an excellent boost to an acoustic rig.

  • Bill Finch

    I use the Zoom A2.1u and find it to be very useful in giving me the sound that I want for a particular song. I use it on both my Taylor 314ce and my Michael Kelly Arena Rose Deluxe. I have learned that what sounds good on the Taylor doesn’t necessarly sound the same on the Michael Kelly and visa versa due to the different systems (Expression verses Fisherman), but I have fun experimenting!

  • Alun McCarthy

    Hi Bill, nice to hear from another Zoomer (for want of a better “expression”!!

  • Paul Chiles

    I use a wide range of pedals with my worship band. My marshall amp already has chorus and reverb and i keep the chorus on all the time, as it fills out the sound in the band – no keyboard. I have tried a whole range of pedals from Zoom acoustic multipedals to individual pedals. Currently, I have a range of pedals, including a Boss loopstation, Boss PH3 phaseshifter, distortion pedal, compression and equaliser.

    I use the equaliser as a volume boost when picking, so that I can set the exact volume I want. The loopstation is useful for multitracking and filling in – like getting two guitar effect on the beginning of ‘strength will rise’. The phaseshifter may seem strange, but it does give nice effects (undersea effects as my band call them!) if used sparingly.

    The range of pedals allows me to double as an electric guitar (such as using the distortion) on certain songs.

    This may seem OTT, but we do services with younger congregations and it does have the desired effect, although I must emphasise they are used sparingly – too much just sounds too ‘Spinal Tap’ :-)

    I’m now experimenting with a digital delay pedal as well!

  • Joseph “Harpcat” Ech

    I have a Fishman EQ/Preamp, a rarely used MXR PHase 90 (sometimes a lite setting in this differentiates me from another acoustic, but NEVER a high setting) Planet Waves Tuner (True Bypass MWaah!) and though I currently use a Boss Volume Pedal, and a seperate DI on my board, I will be going to the Morgan Hill (A friend is giving me his!) At this time the Planet wave will go to my electric setup (on the same board) which has a Menatone Fish Factory (Check out this guys point to point Boutique pedals! They are amazing! Oh and he is a brother in Christ!) Another Phase 90 (used more liberally) an Electr0-Harmonix Holy Grail Reverb unit and an Ernie Ball Stereo Volume Pedal which can be used (and is used for me) as an A/B to two amps! I rock beack and forth , blend a clean solid state, and warmer Tube amp Fender Deluxe)

    I will reiterate that the gem of the set up is the Menatone. Please look up Brian and his pedals. I know you won’t be dissapointed!

  • http://www.myguitarmusic.net Tom Lawreszuk

    All I use for my acoustic guitar is TU-2, DD5 and Ernieball Volume. I don’t even want to hear about adding modulation or sound changing effects, it totally destroys natural acoustic sound.

  • Roger Smith

    Has anyone tried the Hartke acoustic ribbon amplifier?

  • Derek Bishop

    Well I have a Zoom effects pedal and a Marshall amp with about 16 different effects. Frankly the effects pedal is a bit of a hassle to cart around, set up and use with not much benefit. I normally use the amp these days. Just flick between a bit of reverb (room) or chorus for strumming and chorus or delay for picking and playing lead. It can be a bit of a hassle if I’m leading. I slightly boost high frequencies and sometimes knock back the low frequencies on the amp equaliser.

    I’ve had the Marshall AS 1000 amp for a few years now with a Maton guitar and am very happy with the natural sound you can get. The bass tones are deep and clear. In applying effects I’m really trying to bring the natural best out of the instrument for the style of song I’m playing.

    Most of our acoustic guitarists don’t use pedals. We have one lead electric guitarist and he uses one.

  • Travis

    This may be heretical, but I actually use a Line 6 X3 Live for my acoustic (Taylor 614CE). It has a great tuner, volume pedal and stereo XLR out, so no need for a DI. I send two signals to the mixing board – one is completely dry and the other adds a bit of EQ/chorus. My sound engineer mixes the two for what sounds best in the house, panning the wet signal more heavily to stage right, which is where I stand, to add to the stereo effect.

    The X3 live provides access to four patch configurations, without having to change banks, so I use the other three to add additional effects sparingly. For instance, I’ll use delay to start some Paul Baloche songs like “Hosanna” and “Our God Saves” or “Blessed Be Your Name”, which sounds great on acoustic with a low-end boost and palm-muting. One of the patches is set for reverb, which sounds nice when finger-picking the ballads. And the other one (which I admittedly have never used live) is currently set with a phaser.

    Yeah, I know, it’s digital and I shouldn’t be messing with a good acoustic sound, which the Taylor is more than capable of producing on it’s own without a DI box. But the benefits outweigh the negatives, in my opinion, and I do get a lot of tone compliments. I’m sure it’s from folks who can’t tell the difference between analog and digital, but they do appreciate the variety of tones.

  • tim cornford

    Boost! Its all about boost (and reverb). During songs I’ve often found the need for a step-up for a bridge or crescendo. The T-rex twin boost is an expensive though very useful tool. with normal by-pass, a subtle EQ channel and a mid-range ‘lift-off’ channel it provides the versatility we need for hymn->rock->quite worship changes, and gets rid of the need for a compression unit as I no longer need to belt the strings to pick up.
    When playing solo back-up a simple Boss delay can also add a lot.

  • jack ster

    i saw howie day use a line 6 dl4 on youtube on ghosts&beams of light. AWESOME.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=38421958 Chad Wilson

    That’s a cool set up. I put a direct x in a 72 reissue tele, and run it down a stereo chord to the line 6 x3. the acoustic input into aux input and the electric into the the main input. Dual layered so one sound is the acoustic with a little compression, and the other is the hum-buckers to a traditional amp set up. I send both guitars down the same output and mix on the guitar it self rolling in electric on choruses or rolling in a touch of acoustic at times on the more electric sounds. Lots of fun! Must use a wound 3rd for this to sound decent. Always have my martin close by if needed.

  • Dave

    Radial Tonebone PZ Pre is the first item to buy after youve purchased your Martin etc. Second two items are the highest quality instrument and microphone cables (DI outs on PZ). If you absolutely must add shimmer to your highly crafted instrument it should always be the best quality FX and used sparingly. Maybe a bit of reverb and delay – just make sure FOH isnt also coloring the sound with FX. IMO dont buy an acoustic amp unless the preamp stage is better than any standalone pre that you have personally tested through a good PA. The PZ has an FX loop that can be accessed by a footswitch but the individual FX units would need to be bought separately.

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