{"id":12457,"date":"2014-01-23T03:54:53","date_gmt":"2014-01-23T03:54:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/?p=12457"},"modified":"2021-03-25T13:19:43","modified_gmt":"2021-03-25T13:19:43","slug":"all-age-worship","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/all-age-worship\/","title":{"rendered":"How to do “All Age” worship really well \u2013 interview with Jo Squires from BIG Ministries"},"content":{"rendered":"

Jo Squires leads BIG Ministries – who for the last 10 years have been specialising in children\u2019s worship. They have increasingly been helping churches with \u2018All Age\u2019 services – which they see as quite different to exclusively \u2018Children\u2019s Worship\u2019. Here’s Sam Hargreaves from Engage Worship interviewing Jo ahead of \u00a0the sessions she is running in the Engage Worship Day\u00a0(Luton, UK) where the theme is “Engaging Everyone in Worship”:<\/p>\n

\u2018All Age\u2019 worship can be the most dreaded of all services, by ministers, worship teams and congregation. Why do you think that is?<\/h2>\n

I think because it has a history of being done badly!\u00a0 Often this is the service that doesn\u2019t actually cater for anybody\u2019s<\/em> needs, isn\u2019t inclusive, and unfortunately is awkward for everybody.\u00a0 But there is so much potential with All Age, so it is really sad that that is the case!<\/p>\n

One of the biggest issues is our lack of distinction when it comes to \u2018Children\u2019s Worship\u2019 and \u2018All Age Worship\u2019 \u2013 the two are very different, but people still mix them up. We need to make sure that we don\u2019t just \u2018lift\u2019 Children\u2019s Worship and put it before an All Age congregation, because it\u2019s just not appropriate.<\/p>\n

So what do you think worship looks like for children?<\/h2>\n

There\u2019s a John Drane quote I\u2019ve referred to quite a lot, which is that worship is us:<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u201cresponding to all that God is with all that we are\u201d.<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

And so we have to think about what a child is like – what makes a child a child?\u00a0 They generally have more energy about them, more fun about them and so for them, jumping around in loud music and having a lively time can be just as meaningful as for some serious grown up to stand still with their arms in the air, and we shouldn\u2019t try to put children in an adult-shaped box…<\/p>\n

So how do you factor that into All Age worship?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

There is a big difference in my mind between \u2018Children\u2019s Worship\u2019 and \u2018All Age Worship\u2019, and actually I think that this aspect of \u2018liveliness\u2019 shouldn\u2019t<\/em> be a major part of All Age Worship, because for a lot of the other people in congregation it doesn\u2019t facilitate their worship and in fact can be quite distracting.\u00a0 So for me, an All Age situation it is about thinking about how can we all<\/em> compromise, how can we all choose to do the best we can for the benefit of others, because it is worship for everybody, its not just kids\u2019 worship with grown-ups watching.<\/p>\n

So if we lead a lively children\u2019s song, we might tone it down a bit, and make the actions more accessible.\u00a0 For example, the song Words Are Not Enough<\/em> (on BIG Ministries first album, God\u2019s Love is Unstoppable<\/em>) is a really rocky song, and the actions are dancing and jumping and clapping and playing air guitar.\u00a0 However, when we lead this song in an All Age context, we turn down the distortion, make it a bit more \u2018folk-y\u2019 and therefore friendly to all, and rather than jumping we\u2019ve suggested people use their fingers jumping on their hand, or bend their knees so it looks like they\u2019re jumping but their feet aren\u2019t actually leaving the floor!\u00a0 So, the theory is, you can do the same song, but do it in a way that everyone can engage with it.\u00a0 There are always ways to adapt things to make them more inclusive. On our actions DVD (Welcome to the Big Academy, available on <\/em>www.bigministries.co.uk<\/em><\/a>), we offer alternative actions for All Age worship, which are more appropriate for All Age congregations.<\/p>\n

On the subject of actions: you recently wrote a rather impassioned response to an article on Childrenswork\u2019s blog about using action songs in worship – how can you use actions when for a lot of adults they can feel embarrassed using them?<\/h2>\n

I don\u2019t always feel like doing actions, but I see the value in them and I see that it\u2019s Biblical to move in worship, and for a lot of children it\u2019s a very powerful way to engage. And even for those adults who might not like singing, moving in worship is a way that they can engage.<\/p>\n

One of the issues is the way action songs are led and also the actions that are chosen. An overenthusiastic children\u2019s worker in front of you, jumping around, shouting \u201cCome on everybody, let\u2019s do these actions!\u201d \u2013 nobody is going to want to join in, children or adults. Whereas actually, if you can lead it just being yourself and giving people a get-out-clause, eg. \u201cWe\u2019re going to do some actions for this song, if you\u2019d rather stand and sing, that\u2019s fine, but these are the actions if you\u2019d like to join in.\u201d<\/p>\n

Another approach is to use sign language rather than actions. There is something very powerful in saying \u201cthis is based on British Sign Language\u201d or \u201cthis is based on Makaton\u201d, rather than \u201cI\u2019ve just made up these actions that I think are really cool\u201d. It\u2019s actually\u00a0a language that people use to communicate, so it means more to people. We tend to go for that route often if it\u2019s All Age, and not force people to do things.<\/p>\n

What criteria would you use for All Age Worship when choosing songs?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

In All Age Worship generally, we try to look for repetition \u2013 because you\u2019re thinking about non-readers in the congregation, something with very simple actions (like clapping, for example) which even really small children or people with mobility issues can join in with and not too many verses, not too many words \u2013 that sort of thing. If there are lots of words, perhaps we would use some simple sign language that can go alongside it, so that people can engage with their bodies. But quite often, if we do choose a song that has more complicated language, or more of a \u2018grown-up\u2019 song or a hymn, we would do something parallel to it: engage in creative prayer, using some colouring, use play-dough or a building activity, or get some rhythm instruments so that if someone felt that they couldn\u2019t engage with the song itself they would be able to worship God in a different way, but at the same time as the singing is taking place.<\/p>\n

You mentioned about being inclusive, and thinking of people who can\u2019t read, or have mobility issues, or haven\u2019t been a Christian for long, or isn\u2019t yet Christian\u2026 These issues all suggests to me simplifying worship, but how do also make it meaningful for the more mature Christian, who may not have those issues?<\/h2>\n

Firstly, they are usually going to other services on other weeks that are more aimed at mature Christians. So when it happens to be All Age it\u2019s about celebrating the diversity of church and enjoying being in each other\u2019s company, just like we do as a family unit when we come together. Secondly, just because we\u2019re simplifying doesn\u2019t mean that we have to lose everything profound: I think we can communicate big issues and big challenges, just in a \u2018normal\u2019 way, rather than making it over complicated!<\/p>\n

We ran a service in a church in London a few years ago, and the theme was God\u2019s omnipresence \u2013 that he\u2019s present everywhere. Afterwards, this man came up to me \u2013 he was probably in his 60s \u2013 who had been an elder of the church for 40 years, and he said that he had never realised about God\u2019s omnipresence, he\u2019d always imagined God just sitting next to him. The fact that God was everywhere all the time completely blew his mind! And that was an All Age service, where we had been expressing a profound truth in simple ways, and he had had that revelation. I don\u2019t think we can restrict God to 3 point, 20 minute sermons as the only way to say something deep.<\/p>\n

On a very practical level, what are some of the tricks that you use to keep people\u2019s attention?<\/h2>\n

Thinking about the little extra things is really important. Even just having a load of pipe-cleaners around, for those who like to fidget. (Having something for them to fiddle with will help them engage.) Food is always a good idea, as well as space to move around, and giving people the freedom to do so.<\/p>\n

Do you have any tips for planning All Age Worship?<\/h2>\n

Make sure you have a team around you to be able to share the work-load. If the team can have all-ages in it too, that\u2019s always useful, but do make sure that every age has an equal say, and you think about everyone who might be at the service! Be creative, and plan well ahead. Use resources as a basis, and have fun! Start with 1 main point you want everyone to go home with, and work from that, trying to creatively communicate it in different ways. Don\u2019t try to \u2018teach\u2019 too much, it\u2019s more important that you communicate less information, well. Do check out the\u00a0 BIG Ministries resources page on the website, we have loads of stories and sketches and puppet scripts ready to download on all sorts of themes.<\/p>\n

Interview by Sam Hargreaves – co-leader of engageworship<\/strong>.org and the Engage Worship Day 2014<\/strong> in Luton on 15th Feb.\u00a0 For more information visit – http:\/\/engageworship.org\/events\/luton2014<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Jo Squires leads BIG Ministries – who for the last 10 years have been specialising in children\u2019s worship. They have increasingly been helping churches with \u2018All Age\u2019 services – which they see as quite different to exclusively \u2018Children\u2019s Worship\u2019. Here’s Sam Hargreaves from Engage Worship interviewing Jo ahead of \u00a0the sessions she is running in […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4108,"featured_media":12462,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[10,98],"tags":[],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"\nHow to do "All Age" worship really well \u2013 interview with Jo Squires from BIG Ministries<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Jo Squires leads BIG Ministries - who for the last 10 years have been specialising in children\u2019s worship. They have increasingly been helping churches with \u2018All Age\u2019 services - which they see as quite different to exclusively \u2018Children\u2019s Worship\u2019.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/all-age-worship\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"How to do "All Age" worship really well \u2013 interview with Jo Squires from BIG Ministries\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Jo Squires leads BIG Ministries - who for the last 10 years have been specialising in children\u2019s worship. They have increasingly been helping churches with \u2018All Age\u2019 services - which they see as quite different to exclusively \u2018Children\u2019s Worship\u2019.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/all-age-worship\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Musicademy\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:publisher\" content=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Musicademy\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2014-01-23T03:54:53+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2021-03-25T13:19:43+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/drc0fhsrp02et.cloudfront.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/01\/big-leading.jpg\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:width\" content=\"851\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:height\" content=\"315\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:type\" content=\"image\/jpeg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Sam Hargreaves\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:creator\" content=\"@musicademy\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:site\" content=\"@musicademy\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Sam Hargreaves\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"8 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/all-age-worship\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/all-age-worship\/\",\"name\":\"How to do \\\"All Age\\\" worship really well \u2013 interview with Jo Squires from BIG Ministries\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2014-01-23T03:54:53+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2021-03-25T13:19:43+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/#\/schema\/person\/ba87f27984b9fdd26c7eb63c6cccf42a\"},\"description\":\"Jo Squires leads BIG Ministries - who for the last 10 years have been specialising in children\u2019s worship. They have increasingly been helping churches with \u2018All Age\u2019 services - which they see as quite different to exclusively \u2018Children\u2019s Worship\u2019.\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/all-age-worship\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/\",\"name\":\"Musicademy\",\"description\":\"Award-winning training resources for church based musicians\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":\"required name=search_term_string\"}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/#\/schema\/person\/ba87f27984b9fdd26c7eb63c6cccf42a\",\"name\":\"Sam Hargreaves\",\"sameAs\":[\"http:\/\/www.engageworship.org\"]}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"How to do \"All Age\" worship really well \u2013 interview with Jo Squires from BIG Ministries","description":"Jo Squires leads BIG Ministries - who for the last 10 years have been specialising in children\u2019s worship. They have increasingly been helping churches with \u2018All Age\u2019 services - which they see as quite different to exclusively \u2018Children\u2019s Worship\u2019.","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/all-age-worship\/","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"How to do \"All Age\" worship really well \u2013 interview with Jo Squires from BIG Ministries","og_description":"Jo Squires leads BIG Ministries - who for the last 10 years have been specialising in children\u2019s worship. They have increasingly been helping churches with \u2018All Age\u2019 services - which they see as quite different to exclusively \u2018Children\u2019s Worship\u2019.","og_url":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/all-age-worship\/","og_site_name":"Musicademy","article_publisher":"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Musicademy","article_published_time":"2014-01-23T03:54:53+00:00","article_modified_time":"2021-03-25T13:19:43+00:00","og_image":[{"width":"851","height":"315","url":"https:\/\/drc0fhsrp02et.cloudfront.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/01\/big-leading.jpg","type":"image\/jpeg"}],"author":"Sam Hargreaves","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_creator":"@musicademy","twitter_site":"@musicademy","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"Sam Hargreaves","Est. reading time":"8 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/all-age-worship\/","url":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/all-age-worship\/","name":"How to do \"All Age\" worship really well \u2013 interview with Jo Squires from BIG Ministries","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/#website"},"datePublished":"2014-01-23T03:54:53+00:00","dateModified":"2021-03-25T13:19:43+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/#\/schema\/person\/ba87f27984b9fdd26c7eb63c6cccf42a"},"description":"Jo Squires leads BIG Ministries - who for the last 10 years have been specialising in children\u2019s worship. They have increasingly been helping churches with \u2018All Age\u2019 services - which they see as quite different to exclusively \u2018Children\u2019s Worship\u2019.","inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/all-age-worship\/"]}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/#website","url":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/","name":"Musicademy","description":"Award-winning training resources for church based musicians","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":"required name=search_term_string"}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/#\/schema\/person\/ba87f27984b9fdd26c7eb63c6cccf42a","name":"Sam Hargreaves","sameAs":["http:\/\/www.engageworship.org"]}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12457"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4108"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=12457"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12457\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":23431,"href":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12457\/revisions\/23431"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/12462"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=12457"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=12457"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=12457"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}