{"id":9408,"date":"2012-09-19T10:31:38","date_gmt":"2012-09-19T10:31:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/?p=9408"},"modified":"2021-03-25T13:21:18","modified_gmt":"2021-03-25T13:21:18","slug":"liturgy-emergent-church-worship","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/liturgy-emergent-church-worship\/","title":{"rendered":"Reflections on liturgy, the emerging church and charismatic worship"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Last year, I had an amazing time as part of a team of ten interns, all with different church backgrounds, from conservative right through to Pentecostal. We\u2019d taken a year out to serve the church we\u2019d been a part of whilst at Uni. It\u2019s a pretty mainstream evangelical church, with a heart to be engaged with scripture but also be open to and experience the work of the spirit.<\/p>\n<p>As part of our internship year, we had historical theology lectures, looking at different church traditions and how they\u2019d evolved. At the start of each lecture, we looked at different styles of worship &#8216;through the ages&#8217; and tried them out, trying to replicate them in short, 20 minute sessions. We went right through from the near silent service of the catacomb churches, through the mystery of monasticism, the exuberance of the early Pentecostal movement to our final session, where we tried &#8216;caf\u00e9 church&#8217;, a popular model within the fresh expressions movement. After each session we discussed how we found the experience. What feeling did it leave us with? What had we loved about the worship? What had we found difficult? Even from these short, artificial replicas, we formed quite strong opinions.<\/p>\n<p>To clarify, in the UK, the \u2018fresh expressions\u2019 or \u2018emerging church\u2019 movement tag is used to describe churches that are trying to work out new ways of doing church, as opposed to the largely audience-leader based services found in most mainstream churches. The aim is often to foster a feeling of inclusivity, openness and community. Caf\u00e9 church is one popular model employed by these churches in order to fulfil their aims.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The caf\u00e9 church session was great \u2013we used painting and drawing as way of worshipping, used local and national papers as a catalyst to prayer and shared breakfast together. It was station-based, allowing you to spend as much or as little time at each station as you wanted to. It was informal and relaxed \u2013 a great way to start a lecture! But, in our discussion, we raised some concerns \u2013 could we really worship like this every week? We wondered what was missing \u2013 there seemed to be a lack of corporate worship. If churches met like this every week, all together, how did they invest properly in kids work? Or how did they delve deeper into theology? Could a church really disciple its members and survive without authoritative biblical teaching?<\/p>\n<p>We spent the rest of our time looking at material from the websites of some of the more established emerging churches. Our initial concerns were furthered here, but we also found ourselves defending our own position, reacting against statements we found within the churches\u2019 descriptions of themselves on their websites, like &#8216;a church for people who don&#8217;t like church&#8217;. We felt that there was a sense of elitist progression in these statements \u2013 that somehow, by being new, these people felt they were doing church better than us.<\/p>\n<p>And yet, I couldn\u2019t escape a feeling of unease, that was somewhat familiar\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Flashback to a lecture I went to whilst researching my dissertation on contemporary worship &#8211; the lecture had been billed as something like &#8220;the worship of the church of England since 1950&#8221;. Perfect &#8211; and it was right on my doorstep.<\/p>\n<p>It didn&#8217;t take me long to realise that something wasn\u2019t quite as I\u2019d expected it to be. I\u2019d pictured a room full of young(ish) people, engaging with Redman and Hughes and maybe making a foray into fresh expressions. Instead, I was the only one in the room under about 50. And then it started. And the entire thing was on liturgy.<\/p>\n<p>I have a confession to make &#8211; I&#8217;ve never had a prolonged exposure to liturgical worship, and I&#8217;d had even less experience of it then &#8211; I had little appreciation of its benefits or indeed its flaws. But throughout the lecture, and in particular the question and answer session, I was shocked at the assumptions that were made about churches that didn&#8217;t have a codified liturgy, and principally the evangelical charismatic church.<\/p>\n<p>There were again, ideas about what would be missing from a church that didn\u2019t follow a liturgical structure &#8211; it was presumed that, because \u2018we\u2019 didn&#8217;t stick strictly to a church calendar, we missed certain events or had no reverence for them. There was the idea that, because we didn&#8217;t necessarily follow any kind of organised progression in our sung worship, there was no space for lament. Most shockingly, there was the suggestion that, because we don&#8217;t take communion every week, and don&#8217;t follow a liturgical structure in our services, we might not understand the need to ask for forgiveness or might &#8216;forget&#8217;. Then there were reactions against the progressive nature of charismatic worship &#8211; that it is too emotional, not thought through, not reverent enough.<\/p>\n<p>I could feel myself actually physically tensing up, as a room full of people laid into the kind of church I had grown up in and loved being a part of, for not &#8216;worshipping properly&#8217;. I found myself wondering \u2013 if they knew there was someone here like me, would they be going this far? I felt ill equipped to defend the way of worshipping that I had come to love, but felt I had to say something. Unfortunately, when I\u2019m passionate about something and getting worked up, I quite often end up with an attack of verbal diarrhoea that only ends when I run out of breath. So what I ended up saying sounded something like:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Just because we&#8217;re not told to repent and ask for forgiveness explicitly every week, just because our worship doesn&#8217;t had a written order, it doesn&#8217;t mean that we don&#8217;t go through the full range of worship, including repentance, and it certainly doesn&#8217;t mean our worship is unthinking &#8211; as a worship leader, I promise you that I take the responsibility of leading a congregation in worship very seriously, and some sleepless nights planning prove that.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Breathe.<\/p>\n<p>Awkward.<\/p>\n<p>And then, the moment of realisation:<\/p>\n<p><em>Ah. We have an alien in the room.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>What followed was a bit of backpedalling, some clarification, a bit of fumbling. &#8220;Well, of course we don&#8217;t\u00a0<em>actually<\/em><em>\u00a0<\/em>think you don&#8217;t ask for forgiveness&#8230;&#8221; \u201cof course, we\u2019d never suggest that\u2026\u201d \u201cyou understand we\u2019re speaking hypothetically of course\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I spoke to a number of people after the lecture \u2013 I even spoke to a couple who had previously been involved in leading worship in a charismatic evangelical church \u2013 some were apologetic, others conciliatory. I wondered \u2013 to what extent were their comments fair? And to what extent were they bred of a lack of understanding, or as a reactive survival defence of their own tradition? Or was it just that, in their collective agreement and in a space supposedly safe from rebuttal, they\u2019d just egged each other on? And were my comments a fair argument, or the result of a reactive defence of my way of worshipping?<\/p>\n<p>And\u2026 we\u2019re back.<\/p>\n<p>Sat in the middle of our emerging churches lecture the other morning, I felt a very familiar wave of unease, and began to ask myself the same questions. Were we seeking to defend our own tradition against what others saw as progressive? Were we making assumptions born out a lack of understanding? To what extent were our criticisms fair? Were we putting all these churches into one box and making stereotypical judgements?<\/p>\n<p>And that got me thinking &#8211; how would it be if a group of students with an emerging church background looked at a series of websites for major evangelical churches? What would they feel was missing &#8211; a sense of community and family? A freedom in worship? The freedom to interpret teaching? Accessible language? Openness in leadership?<\/p>\n<p>The combination of these two experiences left me thinking \u2013 is it possible to ask these questions of strands within the church, without the agro? Please, don\u2019t get me wrong \u2013 I think these are important dialogues to have, both within a church and between churches. But, I&#8217;m wondering &#8211; how can we survive these inter-tradition critical discussions, and even benefit from them? How can we avoid going too far? Here are some ideas:<\/p>\n<h2>Avoid being elitist<\/h2>\n<p>Ok, so to some extent it&#8217;s only natural to think the way you do church is best, because, well, that&#8217;s the way you&#8217;ve chosen to do church. But you&#8217;re one person. It neither means your way of church is best, nor that you won&#8217;t eventually change your mind. Be open. You never know \u2013 you might even change your mind.<\/p>\n<h2>Just because it&#8217;s new&#8230;<\/h2>\n<p>Novelty doesn&#8217;t automatically mean something is better than what has been before. Neither does it necessarily make it worse either. No church should try and suggest that it\u2019s way of doing things is \u2018best\u2019 by virtue of being new, but neither should a church automatically assume it has everything right because things have been the way they are for a hundred years.<\/p>\n<h2>&#8220;There&#8217;s no such thing as a perfect church&#8230;&#8221;<\/h2>\n<p>This is one of Mike Pilavachi&#8217;s favourite lines:<\/p>\n<p><em>There&#8217;s no such thing as a perfect church, and even if you found one, you couldn&#8217;t join it, &#8216;cos you&#8217;d ruin it.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Newsflash: we live in a fallen world, with fallen people, and a fallen church. And it ain&#8217;t going to get perfect, however much we remodel it, until Jesus comes back. Sorry. And who\u2019s never complained about their church before? And yet, when we\u2019re in discussion with those from other church backgrounds, the hackles come up and ours is all of a sudden the-best-thing-since-sliced-bread-infallible-and-entirely-faultless. Don\u2019t kid yourself. We should love our churches, but be willing to accept that they are inevitably flawed.<\/p>\n<h2>But there&#8217;s no plan B&#8230;<\/h2>\n<p>This doesn&#8217;t mean we shouldn&#8217;t strive to make our churches as reflective of heaven as we can &#8211; God hasn&#8217;t got another plan for the redemption of mankind &#8211; we&#8217;re it \u2013 the bride of Christ. Jesus is waiting at the top of the aisle &#8211; we&#8217;ve gotten hit by a bus on the way to the church, just about survived, then decided to get up and do all manner of unrepeatable things en route, leaving our white dress pretty dirty. We&#8217;re going to meet him at the altar in the end, however we end up getting there &#8211; we just need to decide whether we&#8217;re at least going to try to make ourselves presentable, or just give up and roll in as we are.<\/p>\n<h2><strong>Their church is different to yours? Get used to it.<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>You know what? People do church differently &#8211; we should embrace that. Just because it&#8217;s different to the way in which you do it, doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s wrong. Why not try out something different every once in a while? You might find you like it. I&#8217;ve really benefited from engaging in regimented, liturgical worship whilst on retreat trying to get my head straight. Sometimes, knowing what&#8217;s coming next isn&#8217;t all that bad.<\/p>\n<h2><strong>Love the church<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>Please, no backbiting. I\u2019m ashamed to say that I\u2019ve done a fair bit of this in my time, and it\u2019s just not honouring God or his church. Wrestle with the church and its flaws by all means, but realise the potential damage you can do with your words and guard against that. We\u2019re called to love the church, end of. And that can be really difficult \u2013 what about such and such, those awful people, yadda yadda yadda. In a recent interview with BMS, Jon Foreman, the lead singer \u00a0of Switchfoot was asked how it feels to represent the church to young people, when \u2018the US Church has the likes of Westboro Baptist and Qur\u2019an-burners in its midst\u2019. He responded:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cI think the body of Christ is this grand family and you have your crazy uncle that comes over for Thanksgiving and says some crazy things and you don\u2019t agree with him but you still have to love him. There are beautiful people, hurting people, dangerous people and fanatical people that are all attempting to follow this amazing rebel Jesus that began a revolution of love. I count myself among those followers and I can\u2019t speak for all of them, but I do have the need to love them.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h2><strong>But, then again&#8230;<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>I&#8217;m not advocating a spiritual marketplace view, that suggests all truth is relative and we should never challenge a view because we might offend. The church is called to be biblical, and we should hold our churches up to the light of scripture and ask, &#8216;how close are we?&#8217; We absolutely have a responsibility to make sure that the church is in line with God\u2019s plans.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m aware that I&#8217;ve asked more questions in this post than I&#8217;ve answered. I&#8217;m also aware that I&#8217;ve barely begun to ask how this unpacks in our worship, and indeed our worship leading. I guess I want to call us to openness. Openness to criticism, ecumenism, and change. But if you take one thing away from this, if just one thing stays with you \u2013 love the church.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Having completed the2011-12 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kcd.org.uk\/\">King\u2019s Church Durham<\/a> internship, <strong>Tom Barber<\/strong> is excited about spending a second year working for and training with the church, with placements for 2012-13 in worship and pastoral ministry. He graduated in Theology at University College Durham in 2011. Tom also wrote the recent review of 2012&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/best-new-worship-songs-2012\/\">best new worship songs from the summer festivals.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Tom linked to this post on his Facebook wall and an interesting discussion ensued with his friends (which he has given permission to us to share &#8211; it is in public as it was tagged on the Musicademy Facebook Page but we have hidden the surnames for privacy reasons). Have a read through and add your own comments in the box right at the bottom of the page.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/drc0fhsrp02et.cloudfront.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/08122506\/Tom-Barber-screen-clip.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-9495 alignnone\" title=\"discussion on different worship forms\" src=\"https:\/\/drc0fhsrp02et.cloudfront.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/08122506\/Tom-Barber-screen-clip-507x1024.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"520\" height=\"1024\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2><\/h2>\n<h2>Other posts you might like:<\/h2>\n<p>What is worship? A Catholic perspective &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/what-is-catholic-worship\/\">part 1<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/what-is-worship-a-catholic-perspective-part-2\/\">part 2<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/andy-flanagan-video-interview-on-worship-music-culture\/\">Andy Flanagan on worship music culture<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/brain-mclaren-on-worship-songs\/\">Brian McLaren on worship songs<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/bored-with-contemporary-worship\/\">Bored with contemporary worship?<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/has-worship-music-lost-its-soul\/\">Has worship music lost its soul?<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Jonny Baker on the renewal of worship \u2013 free podcast<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/has-modern-worship-become-corrupt-guest-post-by-kim-gentes\/\">Has modern worship become corrupt? Guest post by Kim Gentes<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/worship-wars\/\">The Worship Wars Series<\/a>\u00a0\u2013 our most popular series of the 2011<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/worship-wars\/\">Part 1<\/a>\u00a0Introduction<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/worship-wars-2-the-inner-struggle\/\">Part 2<\/a>\u00a0The Inner Struggle<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/worship-wars-3-ending-the-worship-war-without-a-truce\/\">Part 3<\/a>\u00a0Ending the Worship War without a truce<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/worship-wars-4-it-might-be-time-to-move-away-from-tradition\/\">Part 4<\/a>\u00a0It might be time to move away from tradition<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/worship-wars-5-having-a-missionary-mindset\/\">Part 5<\/a>\u00a0Having a Missionary Mindset<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/worship-wars-6-do-we-love-our-traditions-more-than-we-love-people\/\">Part 6<\/a>\u00a0Do We Love Our Traditions More Than We Love People?<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/worship-wars-unified-worship-breaking-down-the-barriers-of-age-and-ethnicity\/\">Part 7<\/a>\u00a0Unified Worship \u2013 Breaking Down the Barriers of Age and Ethnicity<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/worship-wars-8-swindoll-weighs-in\/\">Part 8<\/a>\u00a0Swindoll Weighs In<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/worship-wars-9-wrapping-up\/\">Part 9<\/a>\u00a0Wrapping Up<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicademy.com\/blog\/worship-wars-10-should-churches-offer-differing-styles-of-worship\/\">Part 10<\/a>\u00a0Should churches offer differing styles of worship music?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last year, I had an amazing time as part of a team of ten interns, all with different church backgrounds, from conservative right through to Pentecostal. 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