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What 3 things do you wish worship leaders/guitarists etc would stop doing? Why are we posting such negative questions?

By Marie@Musicademy | May 15, 2012


We’ve kicked off a somewhat controversial series of questions on Facebook recently along the lines of:

What 3 things do you wish worship leaders would stop doing?

What 3 things do you wish worship guitarists etc would stop doing?

In response we’ve had the usual wide spectrum of replies including:

  • Knee jerk jokey response:
    “Sticking the plectrum in their mouth……:)”
  • Considered feedback:
    “1. Telling the congregation/worshippers what to do (“put your hands in the air NOW”)
    2. Not changing key so its easier for congregation/worshippers to sing (and for those who write songs, writing them with too big a range)
    3. Using a narrow range of songs/styles”
  • Positive feedback on the style of questioning
    “Ok musicademy, I actually like this approach of yours. It enables us to look in a mirror without the awkwardness of telling people directly. The guitarists I work with are superb. If I had to find one thing I’d say forgetting to watch for direction.”
  • Criticism of us asking the question and the negative nature of the question:
    “Geez, I hate posts like this! It does nothing to build each other up.”

All of these (and the many many other responses) are great. We love to hear what you think even if it’s critical of us. We learn a huge amount from your responses. But the very diverse reactions did get us thinking.

A detailed complaint

We then had a very measured email from Nick Weatherstone in Australia. I’ve got his permission to quote some of his constructively critical email here:

“I think this is quite a polarising topic anyway, but used in this way, this can be very destructive for individual people as well as the greater body of Christ.

I do believe that constructive criticism is invaluable for us to listen to and learn by, but asking these questions in this form is more likely to get people venting their frustrations or personal preferences, rather than being constructive at all, which can clearly be seen through a lot of the comments being made (eg. about clothing preferences or ‘sticking their plectrum in their mouth, or even guitarists ‘playing’). This certainly isn’t helping to build the body and bride of Christ. All it really does is create division, frustration and stereotypes.

Constructive criticism is something that should be done through love and a desire to help build up the individual, and I believe that if you can’t do that face to face with the person, it shouldn’t be done at all, and certainly not on an open forum like this.

I would love instead to see topics that build up and encourage worship leaders or musicians, as they certainly have enough discouragement and angst thrown their way for even the smallest thing. This is something that Satan has become very good at using music in worship to take the focus of the real reason behind worship. Rather than ‘what don’t you like’ maybe ‘what have worship leaders done to help you connect with God’, or even ‘best ways to help someone through constructive criticism, not destroying someone’s ministry’.

I am a worship leader and guitarist from a small church down here (certainly not claiming to be an expert at all), and I was deeply hurt by some of the comments, but more so upset that so many people out there are completely missing the wonderful purpose of worship in both the corporate and personal settings. We have worked very hard in our community to encourage people to worship in their preferred ways in their personal worship, but when worshiping as a community, to be able to put aside those personal preferences and worship for the greater good and building up of the community. The change in people’s lives as well as the times we have on a Sunday have been staggering.

Your products are fantastic for encouraging people to grow their gifts and ministry, it would be great to see this followed up in the forums and topics as well.” 

Musicademy’s response

I felt it was probably time to give some feedback into why we chose this somewhat negative questioning approach in the first place and again ask you for your thoughts on the topic.

At Musicademy we see our blog, newsletter and Facebook presence as performing a variety of roles:

  • To provide free resources to worship musicians that help improve their musicianship – we need to make some noise online in order that people find our website
  • To provide content that showcases best practice, new ideas but also asks questions of established practices
  • To make great content available to a wider audience (for instance when we do guest posts and publish articles that wouldn’t otherwise be widely read)
  • To showcase our own paid-for training resources such as our DVD courses
  • To genuinely engage with a very wide variety of Christian musicians (this is about a two-way conversation which is why we encourage comments, likes, shares and feedback)

Creating content for our newsletter and blog is hugely time consuming but we are able to provide this content free-of-charge as a result of some of the income from our DVD and online sales. We see this online content as showcasing our expertise and for many customers, finding the articles are the starting point in a journey that ends in them purchasing product from us. We’d prefer to put resources into useful articles, free clips, interviews etc etc than pour money into traditional advertising (which doesn’t seem to work terribly well anyway).

It’s pretty common on social media and websites for some 80% of readers to remain silent and 20% to comment, “like” and share content. We know from our web statistics and Facebook Insights that there are many more thousands of you reading the articles than actively “engaging” with them. And whilst that’s perfectly normal, we do want to encourage you to talk to us (and each other) a little more often.

Now “engagement” is a term that digital marketers use when people go a step further than just reading and article. We measure engagement by the numbers of you who have clicked “like”, sharing on their Facebook wall or made a comment. Engagement is the holy grail for us as creators of online content. Without it how do we know if the content hits the mark? Certainly every survey we do shows very positive responses to our newsletter and blog content. But immediate engagement is just that – it’s immediate feedback that this is a hot topic, this is something that you are REALLY wanting to read. Immediate feedback also continues the conversation with other people. And sometimes the comments are as interesting as the original article.

There are a number of textbook ways to increase engagement (and subsequently increase the number of people who will read an article). These include:

  • Asking a direct question
  • Throwing a little controversy into the mix – perhaps showing opposing views or asking a contentious question
  • Including something that will deliberately upset a proportion of the readers
  • Writing killer headlines and following up with killer copy
  • Using celebrities
  • Using humour (obviously distasteful humour provokes more response)
  • Coming up with quick wins such as Top 10 lists, Do’s and Don’ts etc etc
  • “Cute” pictures and heartwarming stories ditto horrific pictures and stories

You’ll be able to find examples of some of the above plus a few more on our website and indeed most well known blogs.

We try really hard to keep the content tasteful but sometimes there is a fine line – and where the line sits changes depending on who is reading. We’re well aware that with British, American, Australian, Asian and many more nationalities and cultures reading our copy it would be very easy to offend someone. Humour (or depending on where you are “humor”) is a very subjective thing. What offends one Christian is hysterically funny to another. That doesn’t make one any lesser a Christian – simply one with a different opinion, background or mindset.

It does seem that with choosing titles, and sometimes content that is perhaps a little risqué for some people we do occasionally offend and of course for that we apologise However, we do want to continue to try and push boundaries a little sometimes. There are not just got cultural expectations that can trip us up, there are theological ones too – for instance the emergent church is viewed very differently in the UK as it is in many parts of the US. In the UK the Church of England has fully embraced what it calls “Fresh Expressions” and this has resulted in lots of coffee shop and community-led expressions of church. In the US, however, many are deeply suspicious of the theology and practice of the emergent church. We can get ourselves into very hot water by appearing to support one side or the other.

However, despite wanting to be careful and not offend anyone, I’m worried that if we tread too carefully we just produce content that is mediocre and “lukewarm”. Content that ultimately most of you won’t be that interested in reading.

We want to hear from you. Sometimes a question needs to be phrased a little controversially in order to elicit a response. We’d love for that not to be the case but in the absence of multiple big Musicademy names (we don’t really have any Christian celebrities on staff), we don’t have the luxury of that status to elicit a response. For us it’s all about the content.

And reading through the responses we’ve had on both those controversial questions I’ve been delighted at how many great ideas have emerged. Here at Musicademy we don’t have all the answers to every question about worship musicianship. You guys are out there doing it every week all over the world. It’s so good to hear your thoughts and your perspectives.

The plan at the moment is to continue to ask these questions until we’ve built a big “crowdsourced” archive of your responses. We’ll then turn it into a helpful, positive series of articles that will encourage best practice and gently discourage the kind of actions that congregations and fellow musicians find offputting.

I’m not at all sure how we could have asked the question differently and got anything like the kind of content/response that we did.

But what do you think?

Maybe you think that this desire for engagement and response is somehow dirty, commercial, not Christian? But the truth is that (particularly in the current economic climate) we simply can’t run a viable business without making some sales. The sales don’t come if we stop marketing. We’ve not found that traditional advertising methods like ads in magazines and sponsorship of Christian events really delivers on the rather high costs we incur. We have found that newsletters, blog content and our Facebook page help to gently encourage sales without us being terribly salesy and pushy about our products. And apart from that, we LOVE writing the content, we love hearing your feedback, we love seeing that an article has got masses of click throughs or a Facebook post has been shared with all your friends.

But – do you agree? Does the end justify the means here? Do you understand why we asked the question the way we did? Were you offended? What would you have done differently? What else would you recommend we do to increase engagement?

And if you were one of the people that didn’t like the negative questioning what effect did that have on you? Did you comment? Did you de-friend us? Will it stop you reading our content in future?

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  • http://www.romanticguitar.com andrew

    Andrew Gonoude The man from down under represents the views of many thousands of worship leaders like us all around the world in small and large churches, struggling to serve with a humble heart whilst needing encouragement, mentoring, correction and accountability. I agree with him 100%. It would be wrong to ignore his reply, but I share your view that debates do trigger reality checks in us all. As someone who has been burned several times by heavy shepherding and burning the candle at both ends etc, I can identify with his experience. I suggest that if this was aimed at children’s workers or mother and toddler groups, you would be vilified, as these people are equally stressed out and under resourced in the local churches as musicians and many worship leaders are. Perhaps the editors need to concentrate on other things, such as building up the body and handling correction issues strictly within the context of relationships, not public websites. Not all of our issues should be openly debated and ridiculed in the public eye.

    Thank you and kind regards
    Andrew Gonoude,
    Director

    The Romantic Guitar Agency Ltd

  • Christopher Gates

    I have been guilty of a few of the things that the people who commented wished worship leaders would stop doing. I was not offended in the least. I think this post was perfect for bringing some things to light that worship leaders need to be mindful of. If I am offended perhaps it’s because I am too self-centered too proud to accept instruction. By and large the church is too soft these days. I say, if there’s something people don’t like about me they should tell me. I have Christ. I can take it.

  • Christopher Gates

    Also, I really appreciate everything Musicademy does to encourage worship leaders (including asking tough or controversial questions).

  • http://Steveweeks.wordpress.com Steve Weeks

    Coincidentally, I have defriended some Christians recently! (but not Musicademy). I had become irritated, even offended by two things. 

    One was Christians who present truth about ordinary things (such as, “Every great journey starts with a small step”). I would prefer a Christian message to be distinctively Christian to avoid seeming to assume a monopoly on wisdom or goodness. In a similar way, someone who states, “They hate America because they hate democracy” seems to imply that no-one else has democracy. I decided to stop listening, rather than complain!

    The other reason for unfriending applies more to the type of message from Musicademy.  I actually stated to dislike an incessantly positive, or “triumphalist” voice. To me, we should expect the positive and the negative in real life, in scripture, and in grown-up discourse. 

    However, what is a good balance? In the excellent Marriage Preparation Course that we lead, we repeat the findings of research psychology; aim for one negative comment to be balanced by five positive comments! Even negative comments can be expressed alongside a reference to the positive. Think about the couplets in Proverbs.

    By the way, it’s better to be uplifting to a small audience than depressing to a large audience. They don’t teach that in Marketing College!

  • Steve Wilburn

    As a worship leader in a large American church, it has taken me some time to realize that I do things when I lead that people in my congregation wish I wouldn’t. A good friend told me recently that I have a subconscious tick when I talk to the congregation that involves strumming and repositioning my mic repeatedly. I was really glad he told me because I didn’t realize I did it at all. Without that seemingly negative feedback I would have kept on doing it, distracting people from the worship I’m supposed to be leading.

    Certainly worship leaders and ministers need encouragement and support, and tragically many receive too little of both. However, there is a great temptation to take ourselves too seriously in the world of worship, and every one of us, from the megachurch worship pastor to the house church leader, needs to be reminded that we have areas that need improvement.

    I’ve found this series from musicademy rather helpful because it allows me to get many different perspectives from people all over the world. Not everything applies to my situation, but having such a broad range of opinions is a good reminder that in any congregation there is a diversity of opinion that needs to be acknowledged. And I know that the spirit of this is not to bash worship leaders or guitarists or other musicians for messing up, but rather to point out the things that are hindering us from leading worship well.

    I look forward to more questions in this series!

  • Travis

    A few scriptures that might help here. (NIV)

    Proverbs 17:19 – Whoever loves a quarrel loves sin; whoever builds a high gate invites destruction.

    Proverbs 27:6 – Wounds from a friend can be trusted, but an enemy multiplies kisses.

    Proverbs 27:17 – As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another.

    Seems to me that we should be open to critical feedback if it is provided with a heart towards helping us improve.

  • John Roeper

    I am not upset by tough questions as I am about thoughtless responses to those questions, such as the people who responded “playing” for example. How would Jesus respond to this question, I wonder, and if Jesus were to ask you these questions, how would you answer Him? If everyone responded on these posts with that attitude, then I think you would see some much more helpful answers, given with an attitude of truth in love, rather than a vent session. Having said this, I don’t necessarily disagree with this methodology of generating feedback, but do think it runs the risk of generating the inflammatory comments that you can end up seeing on these posts, and I think their use should be weighed carefully. I like the post about being sure to weigh the negative with the positive (which I think you do). Thanks for the service you offer to the church and specifically to worship leaders. In todays tech world, with world class music available on every phone, i-pod, website,etc. there is an increasing pressure on worship leaders today to sound like the CD, often with minimal resources and volunteers, so you get the raw young guitarist who noodles too much during practice, and he’s your go to guy. I have one word for everyone: Grace. We all need it, and we all need to extend it. Jesus would find a way to teach him without killing or wounding him in the process, so that he would grow to his full potential, and the church will benefit for the things this young guitarist is learning while he is annoying you at rehearsal. :)

  • Nick Weatherstone

    Hi Guys, I’m the guy from Oz who wrote the email. I thank you for your responses, whether you agreed with my email or not. It is good to see what people feel especially if it has been of benefit, and in that I am happy to stand corrected. I ask that if you do post about a frustration or distraction, that you will seek out those who have caused this and in a loving and affirming way bring it to their attention, it is easy to post, not so easy to do something constructive about it. Also, may I suggest that you ask 3 people (not necessarily friends or family for a safe answer) about things that you can work on to see if you are causing some form of distration for others as well. If we take responsibility for our own worship and genuinly prefer each other as well, then great freedom will be found and the body of Christ will have a far greater impact on the world. Thanks to Musicademy for their reasoning and thoughtfulness and the continued work they do, look forward to see what comes of this. God Bless! Nick

  • Colin spowart

    I agree that if there is an offense that we should look at ourselves and see if there is some truth. Most are not delivered intentionally to hurt. I have been following musicademy for a number of years and bought their products. The heart I have found is to build into christians and bless them. Thank you for doing this. I am not offended I believe you are pulling together the experiences of christians and you attempt to show us we are not alone in our journey. There is room for improvements. Thanks.

  • Don McClure

    Nick suggests above “it is easy to post, not so easy to do something constructive about it.” A hearty “Amen” to that . . . , but that is also why I value the “negative questions.” People in the church are often so polite that I never hear about their frustrations and distractions. I can’t ever improve if I am unaware. This site is the perfect place to hear about my own deficiencies and to take positive action! It is impersonal enough so that people actually share what bothers them.

  • Rob Morley

    I really appreciate these articles along with most of the content you post in your newsletters, I find them encouraging and constructive. The responses they elicit can be humourous and I can certainly recognise traits and have a chuckle about them without feeling attacked in any way even when they apply to me. Keep up the good work and God bless you all.

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