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Brian McLaren on Worship Songs

By Guest Blogger | March 26, 2009

brian-mclarenThere is quite a gathering movement for change in the content and style of contemporary worship songs. We thought you would be interested in this open letter to song writers which Brian McLaren wrote and has kindly given us permission to publish:

Greetings, fellow songwriters, fellow worshippers, fellow leaders in worship, fellow musician/artists, and fellow followers of Jesus:
For the last few years, I have been privileged to be “on the road” a lot, speaking mostly with young emerging leaders. I suppose I was asked to speak to them because of some over-forty quota system, and also because many emerging leaders are grappling with the issue of postmodernity, an issue I lost most of my hair  rappling with myself—and about which I have written some books. Back home, I am a pastor serving a church that has committed itself to enter the postmodern transition and deal with its issues boldly and confidently. I say “boldly and confidently” knowing that there are as yet no maps to guide a church in this adventure—so we have no real idea where we’re going except that we’re trying to follow Jesus. I guess we feel very much like the children of Israel having left the Egypt of modernity and crossed the Sea into the unknown wilderness…we’re trusting that a God-sent cloud-pillar and fire-cloud will guide us by day and night.

One of the side benefits of travel—as a musician myself, I have truly enjoyed hearing dozens of worship bands and worship leaders, and spending literally hours at almost every event being led in worship.
There are many observations and affirmations I could imagine sharing with you who are worship leaders.There are so many encouraging trends, along with a few persistent problems. But one observation stands out. It is actually a request more than an observation: a request for the songwriters among us to explore and then lead us into some new lyrical/ spiritual territory.

One hears a lot of complaints about lame music, trite lyrics, theological shallowness, etc., etc., in the world of contemporary Christian music. Some of these complaints come from people who secretly wish we would go back to singing hymns, like they did back in the -50s (18- or 19-, your pick). I am not interested in complaining, and I have little interest in the -50s (except maybe the 2050s).

No, here’s what I’m after: Many of us believe that we are entering (or well into) a significant heological/cultural/spiritual transition period, very possibly as significant historically as the reformation period, when the medieval world gave way to the modern world. Now, as the modern gives way to the postmodern world, we should expect to see a revolution in theology (in the end, helping us be more Biblical, more spiritual, more effective in our mission—and, please God, more clear about what our mission is). But here’s the rub.

In the modern world, theology was done by scholars, and was expressed in books and lectures. In the postmodern world, many of us believe that the theologians will have to leave the library more often
and mix with the rest of us. And the best of them will join hands and hearts with the poets, musicians, filmmakers, actors, architects, interior and landscape designers, dancers, sculptors, painters, novelists, photographers, web designers, and every other artistic brother and sister possible…not only to communicate a postmodern, Christian theology…but also to discern it, discover it. Because one major shift of this transition is the shift from left-brain to whole-brain, from reductionistic, analytic rationalism to a broader theological holism—a theology that works in mind and heart, understanding and imagination, proposition and image, clarity and mystery, explanation and narrative, exposition and artistic
expression.

Our songwriters could play a key spiritual role in the rooting of this more holistic theology in our people.
But sadly, as I have sat in scores of venues listening (and usually participating in) extended times of worship around the country, I have sensed that our song lyrics are too seldom leading us into this new territory.
They are in some ways holding us back. Please, please, don’t hear this as criticism, but as a suggestion—a gentle but heartfelt request—for change.

Let me make this specific:Too many of our lyrics are embarrassingly personalistic, about Jesus and me. Personal intimacy with God is such a wonderful step above a cold, abstract, wooden recitation of dogma. But
it isn’t the whole story. In fact—this might shock you—it isn’t, in the emerging new postmodern world, necessarily the main point of the story. A popular worship song I’ve heard in many venues in the last few
years (and which we sing at Cedar Ridge, where I pastor) says that worship is “all about You, Jesus,” but apart from that line, it really feels like worship, and Christianity in general, has become “all about me, me,
me.”

If you doubt what I’m saying, listen next time you’re singing in worship. It’s about how Jesus forgives me, embraces me, makes me feel his presence, strengthens me, forgives me, holds me close, touches me,
revives me, etc., etc. Now this is all fine. But if an extraterrestrial outsider rom Mars were to observe us, I think he would say either a) that these people are all mildly dysfunctional and need a lot of hug therapy
(which is ironic, because they are among the most affluent in the world, having been blessed in every way more than any group in history), or b) that they don’t give a rip about the rest of the world, that their religion/spirituality makes them as selfish as any nonChristian, but just in spiritual things rather than material ones.

I don’t think either of these indictments are as true as they would sound to a Martian observer; rather, I think that we songwriters keep writing songs like these because we think that’s what people want and
need.The scary thing is that even though I don’t think these indictments are completely true…they could become more true unless we take some corrective action and look for a better balance.
It’s embarrassing to admit, but some of us are thinking right now, “If spiritual songwriting is not about deep, personal intimacy with God, what else is there?”

Let me offer a list of Biblical themes I think we would do well to explore in our lyrics:
1. You’ll be surprised to hear me say “eschatology” first—and let me assure you that I don’t mean putting the latest apocalyptic novel to music. (Please! No! Not that!) By eschatology (which means study of the end or goal towards which the universe moves), I mean the Biblical vision of God’s future which is pulling us toward itself. For many of you, raised like me in late-modern eschatologies, you’ll be surprised to hear that there is a whole new approach to eschatology emerging (led by some theologians like Walter Brueggeman, Jurgen Moltmann, and the “theologians of hope”).This approach doesn’t indulge in “modern” charts or shaky predictions. Rather, it bathes itself in the Biblical poetry of Isaiah, Jeremiah, Revelation…poetry which, when it enters us, plants in us a vision of a world very much different from and better than ours. And when this hope grows and takes root in us, we become agents of it.What joy I can imagine being expressed in songs that capture the spirit of Isaiah 9:2-7, 25:6-9, 35:1-10, 58:5-14! Who will write those songs?

They need to be written, because people need hope.They need a vision of a good future.They need to have in their imaginations images of the celebration, peace, justice, and wholeness towards which our dismal, conflicted, polluted, and fragmented world must move.This is much, much bigger than songs about me being in heaven. It’s not about clouds and ethereal, other-worldly imagery. Dig into those passages, songwriters…and let your heart be inspired to write songs of hope, songs of vision, songs that lodge in our hearts a dream of the future that has been too long forgotten…the dream of God’s kingdom coming, and God’s will being done on earth as it is in heaven.

2.You may be equally surprised to hear me suggest that we need songs of mission. Many of us believe that a new, larger sense of mission (not just missions, and not just evangelism, but mission—participating in the mission of God, the kingdom of God, which is so much bigger and grander than our little schemes of organizational self-aggrandizement) is the key element needed as we move into the postmodern world.
This strikes at the heart of our consumeristic culture, which is “all about me, all about me, me, me.” Jesus came not to be served, but to serve…and as he was sent, so he sent us into the world.The very heart of our identity as the church in the new emerging theology is not that we are the people who have been chosen to be blessed, saved, rescued, and blessed some more.This is a half-truth heresy that our songs are in danger of spreading and rooting more and more in our people—inadvertently, of course. No, the heart of our identity as the church in the new emerging theology is that we are the people who have been blessed (as was Abraham) to be a blessing, blessed so that we may convey blessing to the world.

For many of us, the world exists for the church. It is like a strip mine, and people are mined out of it to build the church, which is what really matters. In the new emerging postmodern theology and spirituality, that image is terrible. It mirrors the raping and plundering of the environment by our modern industrial enterprises. In it, the church is another industry, taking and taking for its own profit. How different is the image of the church as the apostolic community, sent into the world as Christ’s hands, feet, eyes, smile, heart.We need songs that celebrate this missional dimension—good songs, and many!

For inspiration, we have to again go back to Scripture, and read the prophets, and the gospels, and engage their heart for the poor, the needy, the broken. Shouldn’t these themes be expressed in song? Don’t they deserve that dignity? As I write, I am struck by this thought: perhaps we have so over-emphasized the role of songs in worship—to the exclusion of many other liturgical options (poetry, historic prayers, silence, meditative reading, etc.)—that we have forgotten the role of song in teaching. Remember Colossians 3,where Paul talks about singing the teachings of Christ to one another in songs of the spirit?

3. You may be equally surprised to hear me recommend that we rediscover historic Christian spirituality and express it in our lyrics. As Robert Webber,Thomas Odin, Sally Morgenthaler, and others are teaching us, there is a wealth of historic spiritual writings, including many beautiful prayers, that are crying for translation into contemporary song. Every era in history has rich resources to offer, from the Patristic period to the Celtic period to the Puritan period. On every page of Thomas a’ Kempis, in every prayer of the great medieval saints, there is inspiration waiting for us … and when we look at the repetitive end formulaic lyrics that millions of Christians are singing (because that’s what we’re writing, folks), the missed opportunity is heartbreaking.

These “alien voices” will stretch our hearts and enrich them immeasurably … and eventually, these voices will become the voices of friends, of brothers and sisters, because that is what they are—if we invite them into our worship through songs.

4. You will likely be less surprised to hear me say that we need songs that are simply about God…songs giving God the spotlight, so to speak, for God as God, God’s character, God’s glory, not just for the great job God is doing at making me feel good. And similarly, we need songs that celebrate what God does for the world—the whole world—not just for me, or us. If you have no idea what I’m talking about, read the Psalms, because they love to celebrate what the Lord does for the whole earth, not just the people of Israel. Many of the songs we need will also celebrate God as Creator…an important theme in Scripture, but not for most of our churches.We have lacked a good creation theology in the modern era, and we need songwriters/artists and theologians to join together in the emerging culture to celebrate God as God of creation, not only 15 billion years ago (or whenever) but today, now…the God who knows the sparrows that fall, whose glory still
flashes in the lightning bolt, whose kindness still falls like the morning dew, whose mysteries are still imaged in the depths of the ocean and the vast expanse of the night sky.

5. I should also mention songs of lament.The Bible is full of songs that wail, the blues but even bluer, songs that feel the agonizing distance between what we hope for and what we have, what we could be and what we are, what we believe and what we see and feel.The honesty is disturbing, and the songs of lament don’t always end with a happy Hallmark-Card-Precious-Moments cliché to try to fix the pain. Sometimes I think we’re too happy: the only way to become happier is to become sadder, by feeling the pain of the chronically ill, the desperately poor, the mentally ill, the lonely, the aged and forgotten, the oppressed minority, the widow and orphan.This pain should find its way into song, and these songs should find their way into our churches. The bitter will make the sweet all the sweeter; without the bitter, the sweet can become cloying, and too many of our churches feel, I think, like Candyland. Is it too much to ask that we be more honest? Since doubt is part of our lives, since pain and waiting and as-yet unresolved disappointment are part of our lives, can’t these things be reflected in the songs of our communities? Doesn’t endless singing about celebration lose its vitality (and even its credibility) if we don’t also sing about the struggle?

While I’m at it, may I offer a few stylistic observations and requests—again, not trying to be critical, but trying to be helpful, and to offer ways which you, with your gifts, can better serve the church and our mission in these transitional times? I’ll offer them in the form of some questions.

First, may I suggest that we fully and finally get over King James English in our new lyrics, even if we choose to retain it in our old? Enough said.

Second, may I suggest that we be careful about using gratuitous Biblical language—Zion, Israel, go forth, on high, etc., etc.? If there is a good reason to use such language—in other words, if we are using it intentionally, not just for a “spiritual feel,” then fine. Otherwise, if we can find contemporary language and imagery that would communicate more crisply, poignantly, immediately, and deeply to people who don’t
already have a lot of pew time…then let’s use it, in the spirit of I Corinthians 14, where intelligibility to the spiritual seeker is a gospel virtue.

Third, may I suggest that in an era of Columbines and Islamic fundamentalism, we be careful about the language of jihad and holy war? I suppose there is a time and place for that, but I don’t think this is it. We all need a strong dose of Anabaptist peace right about now, in my opinion.

Fourth, musically, am I the only one wishing for more rhythmic variety? Why is it that I am being blessed so much by creative drummers and percussionists wherever I go?

Fifth, can our worship leaders enrich the musical experience by reading Scripture, great prayers of the historic church, creeds, confessions, and poems over musical backgrounds? You may not like rap music, but it’s trying to tell us something about the abiding power of the spoken word, the well-chosen spoken word that is. (We have far too many less-than-well-chosen spoken words already, I think you’ll agree.)

And finally, can our lyricists start reading more good poetry, good prose, so they can be sensitized to the powers of language, the grace of a well-turned phrase, the delight of a freshly discovered image, the prick or punch or caress or jolt that is possible if we wrestle a little harder and stretch a little farther for the word that really wants to be said from deep within us? Sadly, while many of our songs have better and better music, but the lyrics still feel like “cliché train”–one linked to another, with a sickening recycling of plastic language and paper triteness.

Isn’t our God, our mission, our community worthy of more lyrical quality than we are offering so far?
Thanks for considering these things. I hope this will be the beginning of an important and ongoing conversation.

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  • Nicole

    Brian,

    Thank you, thank you, thank you for your honesty, your thoughts, and your questions raised to those leading in song. This all just sits with me so well. Feels like it really is a time for making the break from these cliched patterns and phrases and really putting some thought into the lyrics of our songs. I am completely inspired to start walking this new road.

    Nicole

  • mark brewer

    You sound like a man who wouldn’t have his nose put out of joint by the suggestion that the time that I experienced Gods presence the strongest was sitting by my Mums bedside as she died. He came and took her home. This was an incredible comfort in my grieving and obviously not a happy clappy experience.

    Your letter is expressing the guts of my current God times. He seems to be calling us to so much more, and yes, it is as important as the reformation. We are at a crossroads (guitar anyone !!). We can choose to copy the world or we can choose a new way, or is that a new take on an old book.

    We are obsessed with getting things right, doing the best we can with the time we have, lavishing the best( most expensive) on God. We neglect that old truth that we need to ‘Practice the presence of God’ and lump a huge, relevant topic in with the very misunderstood topic of meditation( Biblical meditation is chewing things over, not that trance based stuff designed to empty your mind so that something can fill it. Your letter is the result of collective meditation, as summarised by yourself. Conferences, at their best, are collective meditation and sharing of these distilled thoughts).

    So we need to lead people and teach people something that goes beyond our understanding and our culture. As worship leaders we need to facilitate new expressions without losing our focus on the One we are expressing. Bloomin’ Post-Modernism. Things were so much easier when creative questioning didn’t exist and all you had to do was tell people what to think and what to do!…

  • Frank Barnes

    Thankyou for a timely word, and helping us in a time of need!

    God bless you brother!

  • Andy

    Am I the only person getting a little concerned, even frustrated, with the growing amount of this kind of critique of modern worship music? We are ‘bored’ with worship, we are too trite, we are too shallow etc etc. Nothing is ever good enough is it?
    If we could go back to my early Christian days, the erstwhile Martian visitor would have been even more concerned that all we ever did was sing outdated lyrics, to non-accessible tunes, in no particular order and with precious little feeling or emotion.

    Yes, we can always do better but I think modern Christian music is maturing nicely. We have an enormous repertoire to choose from that is modern, accessible and singable covering vast tracts of biblical reference. I disagree that modern songwriters do not know their bibles and there are only so many missional and eschatologically oriented songs one can sing in a week!

    For what it is worth, I think the church (in its broadest sense) needs to take better care of its musicians and other creative artists. Music and art is so central to worship and yet we often leave it to a group of highly committed folk, generally of the younger age range, to work out in their spare time before being wheeled out in front of a critical audience. I have seen many a young musician crushed by the burden of expectation and harsh words spoken. Brian’s message is not much help in this respect. Can we please have senior leaders and writers helping and encouraging our musicians in what they can and are doing, rather than continually picking out what they are not doing?

  • mark brewer

    I think Brians words are very relevant, and helpful to worship leaders. He is asking for the SONGWRITERS to be more creative, and give us songs that are relevant to where God seems to be leading us rather than repainting old pictures. I know what it’s like doing something week in and week out and getting negative feedback as a worship leader(The first time I lost sleep over it)There is a great need for support and appreciation of all the creative arts, and their creative artists. God is a creator and we are made in his image.

    As a musician I am more worried about the state of the church than I am about the state of christian music. Unfortunately God is asking his people to wake up and smell the coffee rather than sleepwalking through our maintainance schedules as we currently seem to be doing. Music springs from our culture. Same old springs from same old.Vibrant new expressions of musical worship will spring from vibrant new expressions of church. Relevant songs spring from relevant incarnation. A church that only invites people to join what they are doing rather than going into all the world is a poor image of Christ.

    There is a general dissatisfaction among most of the christians I know and we need to make sure that we do two things with that.

    1 Recognise that God is speaking to His church about change and take the dissatisfaction back to God. We mustn’t overlay it onto things or people that are culturally counter to our own preferences.

    2 Listen very carefully to what God is saying and respond appropriately.

    A friend of mine says that prophetic voices only speak when the hearers can’t hear, or won’t hear(I tend to agree with the rider that there is a bit of confirming thrown in).

    If your church body is compartmentalised, as mine is, we need to recognise that this produces barriers. It’s a trade off between efficient use of resources and appreciation of the other sections of our local church. If we can live in this understanding then we will see growth, in depth and experience of God’s infilling of His body.

    Andy (above – not Andy Chamberlain), you express your dissatisfaction very well and concisely, please don’t leave it on the blog as an unspoken prayer. God tends to use people like you who are infused with a desire for unity…

  • Abigail

    There’s a lot in this article that I agreed with; it challenged me. There’s also a lot I disagree with. The church has been arguing for ages what the appropriate place of music is in its services. The truth is, the Bible doesn’t say, because when the church was formed, there were no service, no buildings, just groups of people meeting in homes to encourage and teach one another. So, it’s safe to say there is not really a “right or wrong” when it comes to how we use music in our modern church services.
    Growing up as a Charismatic, I was always taught that church was about coming together to worship God. Teaching was secondary to the main priority, which was worship. I was taught that worship meant everybody singing together, focusing on the Lord. It is hard, to this day, to shake this image as my personal ideal of the role of music in the church. This kind of congregational focus is why many evangelicals have a hard time relating to the more complex and (I would say) more beautiful styles performed in older traditions such as Catholicism (to name just one example).
    That is why I agree with his point that music should not focus on “me,” but on the Lord. However, many songs we sing come straight from the Psalms, in which the psalmist is pouring out his intimate feelings to the Lord, and affirming his faith that the Lord will bring him through. It’s easy to criticize people around you, but beware of criticizing the Bible!
    Your appeal, as a musician, for more variety in rhythm is something I understand, as a classically trained musician, myself. However, if your church has as its goal everyone singing together, you are going to miss your goal. In America today, kids have woefully inadequate musical training. Those who take only general music and don’t go on to play in band or the like, leave school not even knowing what a quarter note is. Do you presume to encourage the musically illiterate majority of Americans to sing along with rhythms they’ve never encountered, and melodies that extend beyond a 6th in range? Most will give up, frustrated with their ability to participate, and resort to just listening. I thought we didn’t want “spectator” churches. Maybe your church is going for a spectator atmosphere; if so, that’s fine, you have Biblical ground to stand on too.
    I find most worship music to be way below my abilities, as a trained musician, but that is not the point. I would love to participate in a worship service that uses polyphony! But that is not the point. The point is to worship God in the culture where we are placed. As Paul said, “to the Jews I became a Jew, that I could win as many Jews as possible. To the Gentiles I became a Gentile, that I could win as many Gentiles as possible.” I would add, “To the musically simple-minded I became simple, so I could win as many simple as possible.”

  • Abigail

    One other thing I forgot to say (this being an issue I, obviously, care about, and enjoy putting in my humble two-cents worth!)
    I find some strange hypocrisy in rejecting the music of “the 50s” simply on the basis that “I have little interest in the -50s,” while in the same article exhorting songwriters to find inspiration in literature from historic Christianity, from the Patristic period, to the Celtic period, to the Puritan period. Why would we selectively choose inspiration from our brothers and sisters from 500+ years ago, but reject the inspiration of our brothers and sisters from 50 or 150 years ago (depending on if we’re talking 1950 or 1850, you pick)? If you are promoting a spirit of inclusiveness, then be fully inclusive.
    Again, thanks for a good thought-provoking article.

  • Daniel

    I am thorally bugged by what has happened to the music with the typical worship service in the last 10 years. I think we have a whole lot of music that we like to hear, but have failed to explore what GOD wants to hear. I also like the input that the Barna’s have written in chapter 6 of Pagan Christianity: ‘Those who lead worship select the songs that are to be sung. He contrasts the way song leading is done now with how it was done in the 1st century church by EVERYONE and it was spontaneous, not planned. Singing songs does not have to be from songwriters, but can be Scripture or our own thoughts either put to music or not spontaneously as the Holy Spirit leads us. I remember seeing an old movie where these Christians were traveling on a dirt raod and as they stopped for a rest, their leader asked the song leader for a hymn, whereupon he simply spoke from the Scriptures with no music no instruments, yet is was as beautiful as if it had them. Imagine Heaven with no electricity to plug in electric guitars keyboards or drums; what would we do without them? Just some thoughts I wanted to share.

  • John

    Good article which brought out many valid comments with varied points of view. Some I agree with, others I don’t. Many too deep for me for I’m of a simplistic mindset nor am I here to debate in length over such issues. So I’ll keep this as brief as possible for it is nothing other than my perspective/opinion for y’all to consider.

    Now don’t go all ballistic on me but, don’t y’all think we’re making “worship” a bit more burdensome than it really is?

    Dare I ask: a) Who is worship for?
    b) What is the purpose of worship?

    Now some of y’all may be able to give me a “biblical interpretation” answer which is all well and good but forget about quoting scripture to me. Instead reach down deep inside your soul, contemplate, then answer.

    God doesn’t need our worship (he has continuous worship from the angels), so our worship isn’t mainly for him. Nor does He care, in my opinion, about how we express our worship to him. (By the way, as each of you know, “worship” isn’t just about singing songs.)

    He loves our freely given worship to Him and He isn’t concerned with whether I offer up “contemporary”, “ancient”, “1850′s or 1950′s”, hymns, psalms or any other type suggested by the article or comments. There is no direct guidance as to
    format/type “worship” that should be given but there is this guidance, simplified: “just do it!” (simple, yes?)

    So, “worship” (in the context of music/singing) is actually………. for me! No, it’s not “all about me” but it is a personal event between me and God each time I participate (some don’t, some spectate). Worship, worship leader lead or self-lead worship has the purpose to hopefully bring me closer to God (as is other things, scripture reading, prayer, service, etc) whether I’m alone or in a corporate setting. So I should participate in “worship” that is conducive to this occuring. Not lead by what my church thinks, not what my pastor thinks, not what the music minister thinks, not what y’all think but instead, by what places me in a state of mind that opens my heart to Him!

    It’s not always about the word content nor the music style but rather where I am during the experience.

    Now I know this will be viewed by some as overly simplistic and they may be correct but as stated, simplistic I be!

    The next time you go to church, in a “leader” postion or sitting in a pew, ask yourself a simple question: Why am I here?

    Thanks for listening!

    John

  • http://mlroberts.blogspot.com Micah Roberts

    Lately I have been doing some “mind journeying” in which I listen to a worship song and allow God to show me where He wants to take me. Usually it ends up starting somewhere and ending on a completely different point, however, one theme that I have noticed is that most worship songs are about me, and not simply about giving God the glory. I have been playing the guitar for a long time, but never seriously until recently. I know that God has put a drive in my heart to do something important and I feel like this might be it. I am going to consider this calling and would appreciate your prayers as I listen for God’s answer to this question. My goal is to show God and the Holy Spirit as the only true point for praise and worship. I will write these songs and I will start the journey if God shows me the way.
    Thank you for your article.
    Sincerely,
    Micah Roberts

  • http://shaungroves.com Shaun Groves

    I’ll get right on that.

    Seriously.

  • http://www.stmellitus.org Sean Doherty

    As a theologian (who doesn’t live in a library and doesn’t appreciate the insinuation that we do!) I disagree with most of what Brian says and I share Andy’s concerns of some of the above posters about the whole critique-of-worship bandwagon.

    1) there are a lot of songs that do exactly what he asks for, certainly in the Soul Survivor type tradition which I’m from (maybe more would be good or that the ones that have been written should be used more but it would be nice to acknowledge the hard work people have done!)

    2) I think the shift from modern to postmodern is totally overrated and Brian seems to baptise it rather worryingly as if that gives carte blanche to this ‘new move of God’ – just as arrogant as any Pentecostal version of this narrative

    3) Can we just get over this ‘me-and-Jesus’ snarkyness. This is a massive part of the spiritual classics that this bandwagon professes to want to get back to. Luther, a Kempis, the Psalms, the Puritans, Julian, Teresa, St Paul etc etc. Was ‘me-and-Jesus’ the total of their spirituality? No. Was it an indispensible and legitimate, beautiful part of it? Yes. I can just imagine Brian reading the Psalms and concluding, ‘gosh, they are just SO self-invovled’!

    4) Brueggeman and Moltman are NOT new. Who is living in the 50s now?! serious IRONY

    In summary, I just think Brian needs to be better acquainted with the good stuff that is out there!

  • http://www.gracekinston.org Kent

    I love that Shaun Groves is reading this blog! write on, brother!

  • Helkias

    I had some respect for Musicademy until I saw this. I am gone

  • Helkias

    Brian MacLaren as far as I can tell is a heretic and does not deserve this attention.

  • http://musicademy.com Marie@Musicademy

    Helkias
    We include the article not through any endorsement of Brian McLaren or otherwise but because there is a lot of interesting content in there. Would you be suggesting the content is heretical if it had someone else’s name attached as the writer?

    Its certainly opened up some interesting discussion here which we think is worthy of consideration.

    Musicademy subscribers are from a very broad spectrum theologically. We try hard to serve as many as possible without hopefully offending too many. You are all able to sift content and agree or otherwise. No one will agree with everything we publish – in fact we disagree from time to time on some of the content that is here (whether guest posts or comments). That doesn’t mean that we won’t allow it a voice. Its good to hear other points of view. I hope you can understand that and will allow us to continue to publish thought provoking, rather than lukewarm content.

  • Amy

    I find nothing heretical in what Brian has said. I think there is some really interesting food for thought here. One of the ways in which I like to express my faith and my love for Jesus is through showing love to others, especially those who are suffering/poor/oppressed (for whom Jesus seemed to show special fondness). So to have some songs that are more outward-looking would fit better with my faith. For example, in Isaiah, we have so many references to the importance of caring for those in need and setting free those who are enslaved. Could we work any of this kind of thing into our song lyrics? Could we sing about the joy of showing Christ’s love to those who need it most? Or would there simply be no market for this kind of music, because it’s much easier to thank God for how much he loves me personally, than to sing about showing God’s love in ways that might actually cost me a bit of time or money or emotional investment? I think it’s so important to remember that Abraham was blessed so that he could in turn BE a blessing. In the same way, whatever blessings we have received, whether material or spiritual, God has blessed us with not for our enjoyment but because our purpose and mission is to be a blessing to others. So if we sing some songs directly from scripture which focus on our personal salvation and our personal gratefulness, that’s great, but there is plenty in the Bible about blessing others, and we should be singing at least as often about that.

  • Mit

    Don’t forget your coat Helkias!

  • Cathy

    From the article…

    ‘They (worship songs) need to be written, because people need hope.They need a vision of a good future.They need to have in their imaginations images of the celebration, peace, justice, and wholeness towards which our dismal, conflicted, polluted, and fragmented world must move.This is much, much bigger than songs about me being in heaven. It’s not about clouds and ethereal, other-worldly imagery. Dig into those passages, songwriters…and let your heart be inspired to write songs of hope, songs of vision, songs that lodge in our hearts a dream of the future that has been too long forgotten…the dream of God’s kingdom coming, and God’s will being done on earth as it is in heaven.’.

    As a musician, one time worship leader and song writer, these words say it all. My creative purpose when song writing or when involved in worship is to inspire hope, prompt dreams, stimulate spiritual imagination – basically to create an environment in which God can access us in any way he chooses to – music provides a platford for God to speak and move – a brilliant example of this was when Saul asked David to play his harp – this brought him peace and quieted his spirit. David understood music and the power of music, he knew that music enables us to hear from God, express our hearts to God, receive peace from God and that it can lift our spirits when we exalt God. Worship is MASIVE it does so many different things and has so many different purposes, it cannot be one style or fit into a single format – musical worship will have as many different expressions as there are people and rightly so. Is it heresy to suggest this?

  • Danielle

    I just want to respond to Abigail’s statement that because music education is so lacking today, the church should respond by only using extremely simplistic music in worship so that everyone can easily participate. As a public school music teacher, I would argue for the opposite. Church is often the only place my students participate in or are exposed to music making, so I am all for the incorporation of more rhythmically, thematically, melodically and harmonically complex music. The genre of worship music labelled CCM, though often moving and fun, is about as simple as music gets (sorry its true!). Simple songs are beautiful, but not when its the same kind of simple over and over again. And you can still use a simple, singable melody for the congregation while using more interesting, varied harmonies, or rhythms in the accompaniment for example. Also, you could use a syncopated complex rhythm but have it repeated throughout the song so people would pick it up. Some of the most amazing music ever written was written for God, and it was amazing in its message AND in its musicality. And it was so beloved by the everyone that it is still famous and being performed and enjoyed hundreds of years later (despite its not being simple!).

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